Subject	Not taking it that way - I think there are some things you
Posted by	Ash's Z on October 16, 2007 at 9:49 AM
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In Reply To	i'm not trying to be a dick or anything ash so please posted by zxtuner161 on October 16, 2007 at 09:31 AM
Message	are overlooking about what it costs to produce these pipes. For aluminum bends you are looking at around $45 each for standard bends - custom bends are $55. We'll settle at $50 for rounding. It will take 16 bends to produce a set like this which comes out to $800 just for the bends themselves, nothing assembled, beadrolled, powdercoated. Mild steel came out only slightly heavier than the OEM setup and at a much more affordable price. Polished aluminum is not maintenance-free. I have personally come to the conclusion that T-bolt clamps are not only required for this setup, but present unnecessary hassles working with. The Breeze clamps we are using are a step-up from the cheap pot-metal stamped wormscrew housings and I haven't had any issues with them on my personal Z. I'm sorry this setup isn't priced at bargain-basement levels - despite the few comments about its price, it is still lower than the border kit and trying to produce a similar setup yourself will end up costing you an enormous amount of time for very little savings. [ ashspecz.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	<<<< AshSPEC New Product: 2.5" Intake Piping Kits >>>> - Ash's Z 22:39:37 10/15/07 ibth... - BradZ (FL) 22:41:30 10/15/07 Ash, what holds the piping in place? I don't see any - robo (sebring1970) 22:46:13 10/15/07 Actually no real need for them, believe it or not. - Ash's Z 22:53:48 10/15/07 I use constant torque breeze clamps - maglito 01:24:30 10/16/07 They're too expensive - aliaZ 22:50:02 10/15/07 Big 2nd. (n/m) - Red Baron Z 22:53:34 10/15/07 Perhaps. $900 is less than ~$1000 and our pipes only weigh - Ash's Z 22:58:38 10/15/07 Interestingly enough, the OEM equivalent is $1328.36. - Ash's Z 00:49:00 10/16/07 yea but market value is 100bucks...and only to NA owners (n/m) - volcomstone550 01:05:12 10/16/07 You show me where you can buy complete IC piping for $100... - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:11:08 10/16/07 ill sell you mine for $100 when i get the 2.5s :) - volcomstone550 01:38:13 10/16/07 But then he'd lose out on $9. =) (n/m) - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:51:53 10/16/07 my shipping is more! (n/m) - volcomstone550 01:57:03 10/16/07 Fine - you know where to find me. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 07:22:32 10/16/07 I'll buy yours for $100, full set, I'm in no rush (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 13:26:12 10/16/07 i'll 2nd that. 300-600 for oem pipes (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 06:01:04 10/16/07 Have they been tested? - greyzx 14:05:46 10/16/07 You might want to take a closer look at the initial post - Ash's Z 14:52:39 10/16/07 damn near everything for the Z is way over priced. - nemo1080 23:04:19 10/15/07 2nd. Fact is good products cost good money. (n/m) - Aqualung 23:12:02 10/15/07 Agreed, to a degree. (n/m) - nemo1080 23:20:21 10/15/07 not that it is low price or even justified - MidLifeZ (DFW) 07:27:47 10/16/07 go buy a supra if you think our market is overpriced.... (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 10:53:09 10/16/07 agreed,i am a jackass and wait for the megan racing copies (n/m) - volcomstone550 23:40:44 10/15/07 lmao (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 23:47:12 10/15/07 hahaha, i still holding onto that B&B money! only $400 left - volcomstone550 23:49:10 10/15/07 Awesome, enjoy the money before the Z steals it - TTFairladyZ 00:01:12 10/16/07 its nickel and dime'ing me to death dude. (n/m) - volcomstone550 00:10:06 10/16/07 im double posting: you have to pay to play, ive just been - volcomstone550 00:12:04 10/16/07 That's why I'll be sticking with stock turbos for a while - TTFairladyZ 14:27:07 10/16/07 Re: They're too expensive - MeatMan 00:54:09 10/16/07 LOL - ZXRider(SoCal) 01:16:15 10/16/07 Re: LOL - MeatMan 01:24:33 10/16/07 dude, aliaZ is the man, i will internet fight you - volcomstone550 01:25:04 10/16/07 Re: dude, aliaZ is the man, i will internet fight you - MeatMan 01:53:57 10/16/07 you're out of line (n/m) - maglito 01:26:56 10/16/07 Re: you're out of line - MeatMan 01:50:59 10/16/07 I think they are referring to you saying AliaZ does nothing. - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:54:35 10/16/07 2nd. He started a fair debate claiming they were expensive - Aqualung 09:19:14 10/16/07 that's it, you get him. (n/m) - Spee 11:18:25 10/16/07 (Total Hits: 20,475). - Spongerider :) 11:50:42 10/16/07 your screen name should be MeatHead. (n/m) - ni[X]it 21:49:28 10/16/07 I think the cost is a little to high. - Jason300zxTT 10:53:38 10/16/07 And they're aluminum. If Ash's were aluminum, then it'd be - BigTDogg (MA) 11:08:46 10/16/07 The border kit isn't complete by the looks of it.... (n/m) - Ash's Z 15:38:20 10/16/07 Looks complete to me - ArubaDave 18:31:05 10/16/07 And btw - ArubaDave 18:33:10 10/16/07 It is missing the 2.5" turbo discharge pipes. (n/m) - Ash's Z 20:19:17 10/16/07 lookin good. (n/m) - nemo1080 22:50:13 10/15/07 What about turbo compressor intake pipes? (n/m) - AZHeat 23:13:26 10/15/07 Those will be coming soon - there are several logistics - Ash's Z 23:19:09 10/15/07 Nice work Ash (n/m) - TTFairladyZ 23:16:06 10/15/07 Well after a year and a half I was skeptical that the 2.5s - 240Z FeO2 23:27:21 10/15/07 :) You just made my day. (n/m) - Ash's Z 23:43:13 10/15/07 big second! (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 07:16:30 10/16/07 Looks like another great product for the Z...Good job! (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 23:37:20 10/15/07 Looks Nice! I think I will have to get a set! - Booster (MD) 23:53:10 10/15/07 I never once doubted your work - zleepertt(MD) 00:08:22 10/16/07 Much to your discredit ;). (n/m) - Kenny 00:14:16 10/16/07 looks great. --> classifieds. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 01:04:30 10/16/07 Too bad I just dropped $885 on a clutch kit from spddracer. - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:45:24 10/16/07 How about a picture with the radiator in? - spyhunterTT(nj) 06:00:32 10/16/07 I wouldn't mind - Twindragon 09:13:37 10/16/07 They fit. :) When I said they *just* fit in response to - Ash's Z 09:57:09 10/16/07 Lets see how long before Z1 R&D This product, by the way - Eishozzzz 06:36:14 10/16/07 I think I will make my own befoe shelling out $900. - 90tt2+2z (WI) 06:57:08 10/16/07 you'll spend $400 on supplies alone making a single set (n/m) - ZEngineer 08:45:24 10/16/07 16 bends at ~20 each = $320. Couplers will come out - Ash's Z 09:23:03 10/16/07 i'm not trying to be a dick or anything ash so please - zxtuner161 09:31:32 10/16/07 Not taking it that way - I think there are some things you - Ash's Z 09:49:39 10/16/07 your prices are a little high... - zxtuner161 10:17:57 10/16/07 SS is basically 2X more than aluminized steel. - Ash's Z 10:31:44 10/16/07 im almost positive if you were to call they could source - zxtuner161 10:49:42 10/16/07 not to be off topic - buzzfast 22:52:09 10/16/07 I used to pay $15/bead roll for small batches, $10/roll for - Scotts94z32 09:46:38 10/16/07 LOL, let us know how that goes. - BradZ (FL) 11:32:36 10/16/07 Will you eat a bug if he does it? (n/m) - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 17:57:27 10/16/07 I have all the resources to do it - 90tt2+2z (WI) 19:21:48 10/16/07 Looks great Ash, I'll add it to the wish list! (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:07:26 10/16/07 Nice! At what HP levels would these pipes prove to be - S.Watson 08:13:09 10/16/07 Even at the 500RWHP level the piping and massive SMICs - Ash's Z 10:11:32 10/16/07 Stillens with stock restricted ports or opened up ones? - Woody75 (Denver) 10:55:50 10/16/07 Re: Stillens with stock restricted ports or opened up ones? - MULTI-Z 18:47:19 10/16/07 Let me get this straight..... - zxtuner161 09:16:42 10/16/07 Re: Let me get this straight..... - Ash's Z 09:24:42 10/16/07 reread my post... the price wasn't an issue - zxtuner161 09:47:58 10/16/07 Still waiting for your point... - TriniTT 09:42:11 10/16/07 point a.mild steel is a bad material to use... - zxtuner161 09:54:15 10/16/07 LOL, it wasn't until I did all the prototyping/testing of - Ash's Z 10:46:39 10/16/07 Had my 2.5 inch IC piping and 10X4.5 IC's for over a year - tya 10:42:19 10/16/07 ding! (n/m) - Halo Z 11:52:54 10/16/07 Re: Had my 2.5 inch IC piping and 10X4.5 IC's for over a yea - MULTI-Z 18:37:29 10/16/07 Damn you! You just made my conversion in about - na300zx (OH) 10:43:57 10/16/07 Wow - looks nice and well made - ztunerz 12:35:33 10/16/07 BTW Harry, have you seen the Border 60mm kit? It doens't - Ash's Z 12:48:12 10/16/07 i agree 100% (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 13:16:55 10/16/07 AzHeat in 3...2...1..... (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 18:47:06 10/16/07 indeed it does look nice - aliaZ 11:24:05 10/17/07 Looks great, good price IMO - z32ryan 12:45:38 10/16/07 payment sent =) (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 14:11:41 10/16/07 In all honesty, this is not a bad price. - sparkie 14:17:46 10/16/07 looks great ash, how do the massives fit behind the jspec - zyoulater 14:28:16 10/16/07 No problems there - they were built around the JSPEC fascia - Ash's Z 16:32:28 10/16/07 Someone posted 34rwhp from massives stock pipes. - nzryan 19:20:42 10/16/07 Re: <<<< AshSPEC New Product: 2.5" Intake Piping Kits >>>> - fst300zx 19:26:15 10/16/07 If you were in the original GB for the MASSIVE SMICs, - Ash's Z 20:23:24 10/16/07
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